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21 hours ago, Mike Friedman said:

I laughed. Not because of your comment, but because you were paying for porn.

Have you ever tried to find Bondage, obese, feet, choking, bald, hairy armpit, midget, transgender porn? It ain't easy being sleazy. 

OK, This really happened, maybe 40 years ago...

I was in a mall (remember those?) and I walked into a book store (Remember those?) and it had an adult section. I think it was the first time I ever saw a rack of sex magazines (remember magazines?)

I just looked at the covers of a few dozen. They appealed to a very diverse group of men. Books featuring pregnant women, huge boobs, fat women, feet, old women, bondage, and assorted other magazines. My thought was that to produce a slick magazine every month, you would have to sell a minimum of 10,000 copies...every month.

It dawned on me that there were enough men being turned on by pictures of women's feet, to sell a monthly magazine devoted to it.  

 

That was what I found astounding.

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1 hour ago, Claude Whitacre said:

Have you ever tried to find Bondage, obese, feet, choking, bald, hairy armpit, midget, transgender porn? It ain't easy being sleazy. 

OK, This really happened, maybe 40 years ago...

I was in a mall (remember those?) and I walked into a book store (Remember those?) and it had an adult section. I think it was the first time I ever saw a rack of sex magazines (remember magazines?)

I just looked at the covers of a few dozen. They appealed to a very diverse group of men. Books featuring pregnant women, huge boobs, fat women, feet, old women, bondage, and assorted other magazines. My thought was that to produce a slick magazine every month, you would have to sell a minimum of 10,000 copies...every month.

It dawned on me that there were enough men being turned on by pictures of women's feet, to sell a monthly magazine devoted to it.  

 

That was what I found astounding.

It is constantly amazing to me that their is still a porn industry out there. New stuff is still created so it must be lucrative, though I suspect, far less so than it was. Who, these days would actually go out and buy a blue ray or dvd. All new stuff is available online to stream or download from the producers website and "some" people will pay to see it. However, new material is leaked very quickly onto tube sites and available for free so most people will just wait a few months for that. There is a constant overlap stream of relatively new stuff to stream for free, clips, scenes and whole movies worth. And, if say an American  produced movie is copied and leaked, it is difficult to sue for copywrite infringement if the tube site is located in another country. 

 

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1 hour ago, Lanfear63 said:

It is constantly amazing to me that their is still a porn industry out there. New stuff is still created so it must be lucrative, though I suspect, far less so than it was. Who, these days would actually go out and buy a blue ray or dvd. All new stuff is available online to stream or download from the producers website and "some" people will pay to see it. However, new material is leaked very quickly onto tube sites and available for free so most people will just wait a few months for that. There is a constant overlap stream of relatively new stuff to stream for free, clips, scenes and whole movies worth. And, if say an American  produced movie is copied and leaked, it is difficult to sue for copywrite infringement if the tube site is located in another country. 

 

I get your point

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4 hours ago, Claude Whitacre said:

Have you ever tried to find Bondage, obese, feet, choking, bald, hairy armpit, midget, transgender porn? It ain't easy being sleazy. 

OK, This really happened, maybe 40 years ago...

I was in a mall (remember those?) and I walked into a book store (Remember those?) and it had an adult section. I think it was the first time I ever saw a rack of sex magazines (remember magazines?)

I just looked at the covers of a few dozen. They appealed to a very diverse group of men. Books featuring pregnant women, huge boobs, fat women, feet, old women, bondage, and assorted other magazines. My thought was that to produce a slick magazine every month, you would have to sell a minimum of 10,000 copies...every month.

It dawned on me that there were enough men being turned on by pictures of women's feet, to sell a monthly magazine devoted to it.  

 

That was what I found astounding.

I was listening to a podcast not too long ago. I cannot remember which one, but there was a female guest who mentioned she used to sell pictures of her feet. There was one guy in particular paying her like $2000 a month for them. It helped get her through college.

I couldn't help thinking about all the other things I could do with $24,000/yr versus looking at pictures of some stranger's feet.

I guess when you have enough money to waste $24,000 on feet pictures, you really don't miss the money.

 

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30 minutes ago, Mike Friedman said:

I was listening to a podcast not too long ago. I cannot remember which one, but there was a female guest who mentioned she used to sell pictures of her feet. There was one guy in particular paying her like $2000 a month for them. It helped get her through college.

I couldn't help thinking about all the other things I could do with $24,000/yr versus looking at pictures of some stranger's feet.

I guess when you have enough money to waste $24,000 on feet pictures, you really don't miss the money.

 

I wonder if she did reduced rates for "non nude" 

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3 hours ago, Lanfear63 said:

It is constantly amazing to me that their is still a porn industry out there. New stuff is still created so it must be lucrative, though I suspect, far less so than it was. Who, these days would actually go out and buy a blue ray or dvd. All new stuff is available online to stream or download from the producers website and "some" people will pay to see it. However, new material is leaked very quickly onto tube sites and available for free so most people will just wait a few months for that. There is a constant overlap stream of relatively new stuff to stream for free, clips, scenes and whole movies worth. And, if say an American  produced movie is copied and leaked, it is difficult to sue for copywrite infringement if the tube site is located in another country. 

 

i don't know why anyone would pay for it either. Heck, you can see snuff films online for free (I assume fake ones), 

 

My story about the magazines was when all porn was either on VHS tape or in magazine form. There were actually "Dirty book stores" that sold novels that had sex scenes in them. Can you imagine reading a sexy story to get your jollies? I guess it was quite an industry.

I remember the first time I was ever in an "adult" book store (To ask directions to an appointment). i looked around for a few minutes, and started laughing. a young man that was friends with my step daughter was there and said "Hello Mr. Whitacre, remember me? I'm a friend of Tina's."   I'm not joking. I found out later that he hung out there, looking for...um...work.

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1 hour ago, Claude Whitacre said:

i don't know why anyone would pay for it either. Heck, you can see snuff films online for free (I assume fake ones), 

 

My story about the magazines was when all porn was either on VHS tape or in magazine form. There were actually "Dirty book stores" that sold novels that had sex scenes in them. Can you imagine reading a sexy story to get your jollies? I guess it was quite an industry.

I remember the first time I was ever in an "adult" book store (To ask directions to an appointment). i looked around for a few minutes, and started laughing. a young man that was friends with my step daughter was there and said "Hello Mr. Whitacre, remember me? I'm a friend of Tina's."   I'm not joking. I found out later that he hung out there, looking for...um...work.

I'm here asking for directions, oh I'm here looking for work. No stepdaughters or wives ever got to hear about this by mutual agreement. 

That is when your reply of, "I think you are mistaken, my name's Smith...John Smith" failed to work. This unfortunately coincided with the untimely page over the Tannoy: "Calling Mr Whitacre, your custom, extra small size Tally Wacker Ring is ready for pickup"  

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22 hours ago, Lanfear63 said:

I'm here asking for directions, oh I'm here looking for work. No stepdaughters or wives ever got to hear about this by mutual agreement. 

That is when your reply of, "I think you are mistaken, my name's Smith...John Smith" failed to work. This unfortunately coincided with the untimely page over the Tannoy: "Calling Mr Whitacre, your custom, extra small size Tally Wacker Ring is ready for pickup"  

It was about 30 years ago. 

 

The "Book store" ( The one I asked directions at, not the mall bookstore) looked like a real book store from the front. I walked in, and nobody was there, and there was a separate room I walked into...and it was an adult section (I'm sure the real money maker). I really was looking for directions. I wasn't used to the area.

That kid was maybe 18 at the time. He yelled across the room, I waved and said Hi....and left. I told my wife about it.  Her daughter later told me about the kid at the adult book store and how he was  earning a living.

 

I know I joke around a lot. But the truth is, I'm kind of a prude.

 

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On 8/24/2021 at 6:02 AM, Claude Whitacre said:

i don't know why anyone would pay for it either. Heck, you can see snuff films online for free (I assume fake ones), 

 

My story about the magazines was when all porn was either on VHS tape or in magazine form. There were actually "Dirty book stores" that sold novels that had sex scenes in them. Can you imagine reading a sexy story to get your jollies? I guess it was quite an industry.

I remember the first time I was ever in an "adult" book store (To ask directions to an appointment). i looked around for a few minutes, and started laughing. a young man that was friends with my step daughter was there and said "Hello Mr. Whitacre, remember me? I'm a friend of Tina's."   I'm not joking. I found out later that he hung out there, looking for...um...work.

Yes, why would one pay for it. There are other sites that offers it for free

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4 hours ago, Claude Whitacre said:

I don't know. The stories I told happened before you could go online and see anything you wanted.  I think there are still site you pay for, but I have no idea how they would be different.

These days, many people still want the "Newest" stuff in the highest resolution without the interruption of re-directs and popups to get to the clip or movie, no buffering, fast servers. (If long established they have a huge database of all previous stuff)  and are prepared to pay for that. Then there is specialist stuff that is fiercely protected and does not get ripped that easily. Looking at the monthly cost to be a member, it has definitely gone down over the years too, they rely more on volume, many more people online.  These makers also lease their material out to other pay-sites so the these sites can boast many different providers. I suppose putting that all together there is still money to be made. So, this has replaced the Blue-Ray/DVD model. In Europe for example we have a Brazzers TV channel. Or, you could just subscribe to their site and watch selectively.  

One thing that intrigues me is that the Japanese seem to have the monopoly on adult material. Even though much is partially censored, the most online and the easiest to come by for free. Barely a few months go by before a release is free to view. They must make very little per movie. I must clarify that an alleged friend gave me all this info. A guy called Kurt. 😉

   

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14 hours ago, Lanfear63 said:

In Europe for example we have a Brazzers TV channel. Or, you could just subscribe to their site and watch selectively.  

One thing that intrigues me is that the Japanese seem to have the monopoly on adult material. Even though much is partially censored, the most online and the easiest to come by for free. Barely a few months go by before a release is free to view. They must make very little per movie. I must clarify that an alleged friend gave me all this info. A guy called Kurt. 😉

   

Ha!

 

A related subject I read about (years ago) is that The Playboy Channel is not subscribed to much.

And the reason was that....some men are turned off by anything related to porn, even nude women. And the ones that would be willing to pay? There is so much more explicit materials available online for free than anything you would ever see on the Playboy Channel.

Years ago, Showtime used to show movies, with the same actors in dozens of these movies, that had lots of nudity and simulated sex. They really weren't bad movies. They actually had a plot. I was surprised later to find out that these same actors were actually porn actors that also made the milder movies you could see on Showtime. 

 

What's funny to me is that 30 years ago, I would watch these movies just to see the nude scenes. Now, when something like this is on, I either change the channel, or fast forward past the sex scenes. It's interesting how aging changes you.

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11 minutes ago, Claude Whitacre said:

Ha!

 

A related subject I read about (years ago) is that The Playboy Channel is not subscribed to much.

And the reason was that....some men are turned off by anything related to porn, even nude women. And the ones that would be willing to pay? There is so much more explicit materials available online for free than anything you would ever see on the Playboy Channel.

Years ago, Showtime used to show movies, with the same actors in dozens of these movies, that had lots of nudity and simulated sex. They really weren't bad movies. They actually had a plot. I was surprised later to find out that these same actors were actually porn actors that also made the milder movies you could see on Showtime. 

 

What's funny to me is that 30 years ago, I would watch these movies just to see the nude scenes. Now, when something like this is on, I either change the channel, or fast forward past the sex scenes. It's interesting how aging changes you.

Having seen a fair share of Porn movies in my life I am pretty bored with it. I am more interested in how they light the actors and the medium they use to record it. For example, film it with full sized television camera's for a change so it will be like a studio shot. (except those cameras cost 250k apiece) Film it with 35 millimeter film. It looks different.

I like well done erotic movies which are close to the knuckle, briefly explicit perhaps. Perhaps mixed in with interesting storylines. Or at the other end of the scale., horror, grainy low budget or slash em up ones. Or, movies that show real passion. The Japanese have got that one down.  The American ones are by the numbers, no kissing, routine. Fed up with the gyno stuff. Good softcore is better than hardcore in most cases. 

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4 hours ago, Lanfear63 said:

Having seen a fair share of Porn movies in my life I am pretty bored with it. I am more interested in how they light the actors and the medium they use to record it. For example, film it with full sized television camera's for a change so it will be like a studio shot. (except those cameras cost 250k apiece) Film it with 35 millimeter film. It looks different.

I like well done erotic movies which are close to the knuckle, briefly explicit perhaps. Perhaps mixed in with interesting storylines. Or at the other end of the scale., horror, grainy low budget or slash em up ones. Or, movies that show real passion. The Japanese have got that one down.  The American ones are by the numbers, no kissing, routine. Fed up with the gyno stuff. Good softcore is better than hardcore in most cases. 

It's amazing how tastes in movies are different.

I like mysteries. Sherlock Holmes kind of mysteries. If it's a horror movie, it better be a great one. I'll read the Wikipedia summary of the movie before I'll watch it.

Superhero movies are a given, but I don't watch the TV shows. Great science fiction I'll watch.

A good time travel movie, where the flaws in plot aren't obvious will make me happy. Even the low budget ones. Primer was a good example.

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7 hours ago, Claude Whitacre said:

It's amazing how tastes in movies are different.

I like mysteries. Sherlock Holmes kind of mysteries. If it's a horror movie, it better be a great one. I'll read the Wikipedia summary of the movie before I'll watch it.

Superhero movies are a given, but I don't watch the TV shows. Great science fiction I'll watch.

A good time travel movie, where the flaws in plot aren't obvious will make me happy. Even the low budget ones. Primer was a good example.

True, don't go searching for Deadpool 3, you may be surprized with what you find.

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I told my wife that last night, right after we heard it. I said "Thank God they will still have porn on Onlyfans. I prepaid my membership for a year. Now it won't go to waste".

 

She said "What's Onlyfans?"

I said "I don't know. I only heard the word a week or so ago. Something about porn though"

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12 hours ago, Claude Whitacre said:

I'm so excited to announce that I just heard that Onlyfans.com is still going to allow porn.

I told my wife that last night, right after we heard it. I said "Thank God they will still have porn on Onlyfans. I prepaid my membership for a year. Now it won't go to waste".

 

She said "What's Onlyfans?"

I said "I don't know. I only heard the word a week or so ago. Something about porn though"

Those working in the BBW section let out a huge Thigh of relief

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